There was a discussion and much research at FFD about how early there were multiple Yokos, which culminated in the following:
I’m finding two different Yokos in two different films in 1965, so there was already more than one before 1966, and sometimes she shows up soft and gentle one way but not the other, and other times she shows up soft and gentle the other way, as I’ll show in this post. I see two predominant Yokos before 1966, and through the 70s with the different John Lennons. What I see in these two from pre-1966 is either exact matches to the two of post-1966, or that they fall within the criteria to be replications of one type or another. Sometimes a total and complete imposter has quite obviously been throw into the mix.
Just as I’ve found with any of the Beatles, or their wives or girlfriends that I've inquired into, it appears there were always multiples, or at least two of each entity involved in this Beatles odyssey, as far back as it can be searched, and they all co-exist, and take turns with their public appearances and performances. Of course, there were more of each Beatle when they were younger when there were more demands upon them, but there are multiples for a lifetime, as far as my research reveals, which makes it extremely difficult -- and we've found it impossible -- to say who would be the original of any of them, if an original indeed existed. We find the youngest ones, or the ones in the very first photos and performances are still showing up much later. It was that way for John and George, according to our research, and it's that way for Paul, Ringo, Yoko, etc., as well, according to our research.
What we think is happening when someone says, for instance, “this one is Paul whom I love, and that one is Faul whom I detest”, is that they’re not always seeing it's (who they think later is) Faul when they think it's Paul (i.e., during Beatlemania) and vice versa (during Wings, Macca). At times, and without realizing, they end up loving and idolizing the one they hate, and hating and condemning the one they love, although when it's seen that either the original cannot be pinned down, and/ or has always been involved, would that even be someone who should be loved and idolized? Let’s see if I can make my case here about Yoko, because I'm seeing two of her from as far back as pictures of her have been posted into childhood. I could continue to look at more videos. I’ve searched her fan clubs and facebook fan group, but they’re all woefully lacking in any type of substance with very few pictures. When there are pictures on these sites, they’re of both Yokos that show up since she was a toddler.
This is one of the two Yoko’s – or a subsequent reproduction of her -- I showed with John in the previous post. I see her as being the same one in the link you posted, with the delicate features in the Cut Piece photo. She has the small nose, lower left eye, and small eyes. It’s too bad we can’t see her teeth.
On the left, the picture you linked to, and on the right, a video I found from 1965. Yes, she seems more mellow and gentle; more feminine and refined; even quite elegant.
Do you know of any other photos of her in this year that would coincide with this Yoko? It's very difficult to make a decision on her countenance from just one picture. I would like to see if it stays consistent and confluent.
How many years between these two photos? In both photos she has a more concave right cheek, and her left eye is almost crossed if she looks to the right (left photo), and her right eye is almost crossed if she looks to the left (right photo).
Cut piece 1965https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2IgqYiaywU
I think this is her with "a" John Lennon. I would say her vibe in Imagine
was the same as in Cut Piece
, but you may disagree.
Here is Foko performing Cut Piece a mere one year later (top picture). Is this the same person?!!!???:http://artr5000.blogspot.com/2011/06/yoko-ono.html
I know what nay sayers will cry: "She just lost a lot of weight, that's all. From heroin use and macrobiotics." Yeah, yeah, of course. There's always an explanation for the anomalies.
Here's an interesting film clip from an absolutely atrocious, low budget nudie (she doesn't get naked, though) suspense movie the original Yoko played a small role in 1965, Satan's Bed
(interesting title, given all we know about these people). This acting role has always been left out of Yoko Ono's official biography; were it not for the internet it would never have surfaced and no one would know about it. My guess is that the omission was due to a combination of embarrassment and concern that if this footage was ever seen by people, the subsequent imposture would be too obvious and people would start questioning. This clip is a good demonstration of the more feminine manner and mood of the original Yoko:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV3W2k1tQzQ
I would say this is the other Yoko – or her ‘clone’ - in both cases: the picture on the site, and the video which you linked to, also from 1965. I also showed this Yoko with "John" in the previous post, or one just like her. She has the same features and the same lower eye on the right side of her face. Yes, she seems harsher and colder than the previous one in these two pictures. Again, too bad we can’t see her teeth.
]Satan’s Bed Starring Yoko Ono – 1965
So, I’m seeing two different Yokos in two different 1965 films, and as far as I can tell, they match the two different Yokos with John. If they took the DNA of the Yoko in Cut Piece to make a different second Yoko, that is something that still needs to be determined for sure. It’s certainly possible they did, and certainly possible they did likewise with the Beatles before they ever hit the world stage. Or even long before that.
As for the post 1980, Yoko the Widow version, there have been so many it's ridiculous to even try to sort them out. It's pretty clear now that the constant wearing of dark sunglasses, and in later years large, outlandish hats, were used to draw attention away from the differences in the person underneath. One of the most obvious differences between the Lennon era and post Lennon era Fokos is that the latter has very different dentition. John's Yoko has a gap in her top front teeth. Widow Yoko does not. Her lower teeth are also more straight and uniform. In the following two clips, notice the difference in the women's teeth, and in their noses and nostrils, Widow Yoko's being more delicate.
In this first performance clip from the early 70s, just watch long enough to get a few good looks at Yoko's teeth. I suggest you turn the sound off:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfZvHuh7wKM
Who would John's Yoko be? Like I’ve already mentioned, I find that more than one John is seen with more than one Yoko, and I do find it difficult to see both women's teeth because neither smiles much. Here are screen shots of her teeth in the Dick Cavett performance. Yes, I see the gap in this Yoko's top teeth, and there’s the lower left eye, too, and that tiny button nose.
In this music video from 1985, her top teeth are shown briefly a few times near the end, and the gap is gone, her bottom teeth are shown throughout. Very different from the prior version. The Yoko of recent years smiles a lot, and the gap is closed. Yes, yes, I know -- "she just got her teeth fixed is all!" But why did she wait until so late in life to do it? Why not when she was young and living the high life with John's millions at her fingertips? It makes about as much sense as Madonna having suddenly lost the trademark gap in her front teeth, and her trademark facial mole. "She just got her teeth capped and her mole removed, that's all! She's entitled!"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSQOTrJ0EJ4
As for the one in the 80s video, we decided very early-on to discard photos for this research if the subject is wearing dark glasses. The evidence is just not reputable or usable. This could be anyone, even a mechanical droid made up to look like a Yoko Ono.
One more clip worth a perusal. This is her accepting a posthumous Grammy for John in 1981. It would seem that this is a doppelganger they used only once and retired immediately -- she's way, way too attractive to pass for Yoko Ono! The public might buy it once if they were caught unaware, but not on repeated showings. Fast forward to the 1:09 mark:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYAF7viP5mM
What I see here is the Yoko with a gap in her teeth, the small eyes, with the lower one being on the left, like in one of the two comparisons in my previous post; the one in the earliest Cut Piece photo. She has the composure and vibe about her that you describe who you believe to be the real Yoko as having. She’s very soft and elegant. That doesn't mean it "is" the younger Yoko; she is just very, very much the same in her facial features and that elegance and composure of the “Cut Piece” Yoko.
Here’s an interview I came upon recently. The first part is where they talk with Cynthia, but I’ll just focus on the pictures of Yoko from the second part for these purposes. Again, I see the delicate woman with the small feminine features. We don’t always get a good look at Yoko’s earlobes, either because when younger her hair was so long it covered them completely, or she’s wearing earrings, etc., but here’s one I could find of her earlobes when she was young, compared in the interview, and a bit of a look at her teeth.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSFk1q-HYIo
Here’s the same thing they do with the Beatles, and so many celebs, etc.; they publish childhood photos of all the different varieties of each, like this with Yoko. Here are some childhood pictures of both of the two main Yokos I’m finding.
This is the one with the wider nose, et al.
Smaller nose, etc.
In this video about The Real Yoko Ono – meaning what she was ‘really’ like, and not the “public misconceptions” about her, they show pictures of her as a child, and they’re showing both versions that I posted.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f5SbaMMI7U
As for her teeth in the current era being different, anything could have been necessary by now. For all I know, she could be wearing a denture, or maybe she cracked or broke a front tooth and had it crowned. That actually happened to me when I was in my 20s, and they did a correction on the way things looked, so they may have filled in any gap she had, if that's even one of the two younger ones I'm focusing on, or whether they're just using the same basic two templates to continue replicating.
Here’s a picture of her now where it looks like her teeth are all close together in a straight line on top. I’m not saying this woman is either of the two younger Yokos because it’s imposible to tell with the sunglasses and hat, and the angle at which she’s standing. However, I do believe I continue to see two women going by the name of Yoko Ono who match the younger two Yokos exactly when the certain particular features I've pointed out about them are taken into consideration, or within the 96-99 percentile of being too similar to be actresses, and too different to be the same person.
According to [a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoko_Ono#College_and_downtown_beginnings"]Wikipedia[/a] and other sources, there are two separate accounts for how John and Yoko met, and I would have to ask which
John and which
Yoko are doing the meeting each time. We don’t know which John came first, so we have decided that for us personally, they either have to all be called John, or all be called “Fohn”, and likewise with the other three Beatle multiples. This is why we put "Faul", "Fohn", etc. in quote marks.
The way I see it, the whole story is as fabricated as the people involved. Just as we haven’t been able to determine who was the first of each Beatle character, I cannot in good conscience, or to my personal satisfaction, by looking at all these pictures of Yoko over the years, determine who the first Yoko would’ve been.
What criteria would I use in any of these cases? The first one photographed? Because she has a sweet disposition? The first one who stepped onto the stage, or in front of a camera? If they’re all fabricated, and all are made from scratch, what difference would it make anyway? Likewise, if one of each in this saga is really the true original, but were complicit in co-existing with the fakes, what difference would it make to know which one is the original in that case, either? It would incriminate them in my eyes, and I wouldn’t be able to admire them for what they knowingly and willingly did. If they did this under duress, then they have my sympathy, and that puts a whole different viewpoint on things, too.
I’m finding two main older Yokos out there that, when their eyes aren’t covered with sunglasses, they match the two younger Yokos. There may also be others who don't match either of the younger ones. I’m working on that presentation to hopefully post soon. I'll include all the possible differences and similarities that I can find. One reason for the sunglasses may be that they realize we can tell the difference between a lower left and lower right eye, so they're trying to keep them concealed. I'm finding a lot of pictures where the shades are down far enough on her nose to see her eyes, so this will give me more with which to work.